In a recent episode of Pete Neubig’s podcast, he hosted DD Lee, the Treasurer of NARPM
(National Association of Residential Property Managers). Known for her expertise in hiring and
retaining talent, DD shared her unique perspective on the critical elements that make a business
thrive: its people. She believes that a successful business is built on finding the right individuals
who not only fit the job but also stay long-term, contributing to the organization’s growth and
stability.
DD Lee’s passion for hiring stems from her belief that “what makes a business successful is its
people.” Finding the right talent, however, is no easy task. She emphasizes the importance of
minimizing churn and nurturing employees, viewing hiring and retention as a science. This
scientific approach involves understanding that not everyone aspires to be an entrepreneur; many
people prefer the stability of a regular paycheck.
In today’s business environment, automation is a significant trend. However, DD warns against
relying solely on automated processes when hiring. She likens the hiring process to dating: “If
you don’t know what you are looking for, you’re just going to keep looking and looking; you’ll
never find the right person.” This analogy underscores the importance of knowing your business
values, vision, and mission, and integrating these elements into your hiring strategy.
DD stresses the importance of core values in the hiring process. Understanding your business’s
core values and communicating them to potential employees is crucial. One effective tool she
recommends is the DISC personality test. This test helps determine whether a candidate’s
personality aligns with the job requirements. For administrative roles, a high “C”
(conscientiousness) result is often ideal, while a combination of “C” and “S” (steadiness) is
preferable for roles involving both admin tasks and customer interactions.
Benchmarking salaries is another critical aspect of DD’s hiring strategy. She consults her NARPM
colleagues to understand market rates but believes in paying slightly above the market rate for
the right person. Her approach involves hiring at the market rate and providing a raise after 90
days. DD also highlights the advantages of hiring inexperienced individuals, noting their
enthusiasm and willingness to learn.
DD and Pete agree on the psychological benefits of allowing applicants to state their expected
salary. This method ensures candidates feel valued and live up to their worth. Additionally, DD
advises checking the spelling and grammar on applications, as attention to detail in writing often
reflects effective communication skills.
To streamline the hiring process, DD requires a recorded video from applicants before scheduling
an interview, saving time and effort. Observing applicants’ responsiveness and behavior during
the application process provides valuable insights into their potential work performance.
Training is a cornerstone of DD’s approach. She ensures that comprehensive training is provided
before new hires start their roles, avoiding the pitfalls of on-the-spot training. She also
emphasizes the importance of process automation in simplifying training procedures.
Respect and positive reinforcement are vital in DD’s training philosophy. Instead of blaming
employees for mistakes, she advocates for a respectful approach, asking them to explain what
happened. This fosters a supportive work environment.
On the lighter side, DD believes in maintaining a fun and engaging workplace. She organizes
games every Friday, quarterly team lunches, and annual trips. These activities, such as their trips
to the Georgia mountains, where they combine fun with half-day training sessions, keep the team
motivated and bonded.
In a rapid-fire segment, DD Lee shared some quick insights: her biggest mistake was not
learning trust accounting correctly. She uses Buildium as her PM software and her current
organization operates on a departmental structure, covering accounting, maintenance, leasing,
and reception. They utilize virtual assistants and her top advice for new property managers is to
join NARPM, attend meetings, classes, and conferences, and get involved. Lee’s first job was an
account manager at AT&T for small-medium business accounts. Her ideal vacation involves
hiking in remote areas with mountains and waterfalls. Surprisingly, English wasn’t her first
language—she speaks Chinese. She sees herself in Disney’s Mulan and prefers cats over dogs.
DD Lee’s insights provide a comprehensive guide to effective hiring and retention strategies. Her
scientific approach, combined with practical tips and a focus on employee engagement, offers
valuable lessons for any business looking to build a strong, dedicated team. By understanding
your business’s core values, using tools like the DISC personality test, and maintaining a
respectful and fun work environment, you can attract and retain the right talent to drive your
business’s success.